but the problem is president is recognized as a good debater and romney is not. the problem for obama, they better be careful, romney had 24 debates in the primary campaign. and obama has not debated since four years ago. dana, what do you think? >> dana: except for "the view." >> bob: what do you think of the expectations? dais when president obama says that, it's not credible. they don't believe that. they think so highly of themselves and their campaign, when he says that, you know he is setting it up so the headline the next day will be despite expectation of him not doing well, president obama shined. that's what you will read. >> greg: surprisingly good point. gamesmanship. obama doesn't believe there is anything on earth anyone can do better than him. false modesty that is comically nauseating after a while. no, there is nothing that he thinks romney can do better than him. >> eric: a good reason for that. everyone after the last four years ago said what a great speaker he is! he is one of the best political speakers over the walk the earth. remember that?